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  • 1.  Founder ownership over time

    Posted 02-05-2024 10:15

    Ever wondered how your equity ownership evolves over time as your startup grows? Here's a great visual that shows how the average founder's equity changes as the company grows. 

    Does this resonate with your experience? 

    Plus, here's an exclusive invitation to our Carta Compensation Community – the go-to hub for all things compensation and equity awards. Join discussions, seek advice, and connect with fellow founders navigating the intricacies of compensation in the startup world.

    What questions or thoughts do you have about founder equity, valuation, or compensation? Drop them in the comments and let's discuss. 



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    Brent Devey
    Community Manager
    Carta
    Salt Lake City UT
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  • 2.  RE: Founder ownership over time

    Posted 02-06-2024 10:13

    If you plot the founder value versus company valuation in dollars, the founder value increases in a linear fashion.  This occurs as the company valuation  increases exponentially. This linear value increase for a founder is due to constant dilution of founder equity as the valuation increases.

    You also have to remember that company valuation and founder value does not translate directly to money in the bank. 



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    Paul Bodnar
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  • 3.  RE: Founder ownership over time

    Posted 02-06-2024 10:28
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    Graph of Company Valuation and Founder Value in Dollars using the same data in graph presented above.



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    Paul Bodnar
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  • 4.  RE: Founder ownership over time

    Posted 02-06-2024 14:08

    Super helpful to view it from this perspective as well. Thanks, @Paul Bodnar!

    How would you say that money in the bank for a founder progresses as the valuation increases? 



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    Brent Devey
    Community Manager
    Carta
    Salt Lake City UT
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  • 5.  RE: Founder ownership over time

    Posted 02-06-2024 14:46

    Stock valuation makes no change in a founder's bank account.   Investors normally purchase new shares which dilute existing shares. They rarely purchase shares directly from the founders. So, the founder bank balance doesn't change at all. This is actually shown in the initial graph where the founders shares are being diluted with each new valuation as new shares are created.

    If investors purchase shares directly from founders this will result in an increase in bank balance. But it will also result in lower total stock value growth in the future for the founder who sold. Perfect example  Wozniak and Apple shares. Mathematically if a founder sold any shares to any investor (at valuation price) it will result in less total value at the final valuation than the other founders that held their shares. This assumes increasing valuations in the future as shown in the initial graph.

    The growth deviation between founder and company has to exist so investors can get a good return on their overall investment. Most companies fail... which means most investments also fail.  It is just the few successful investments that pay for all the failed investments.

    A bootstrapped business not taking investment or diluting founder shares will show founder stock value align directly with company value.



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    Paul Bodnar
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  • 6.  RE: Founder ownership over time

    Posted 02-15-2024 15:50

    This is great information. This seems about right from my experience though am by no means an expert. In biotech dilution is perhaps even more steep. My previous company sold for 4.1b. By that point my ownership was low digit fractions but it still was very good for me as a founder because we set everything up well prior to taking large vc round



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    Deborah
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